Simpáticos

An Astrological Report on the Relationship Between

Laura Bush and Hilary Clinton

Interpreted by Bernie Ashman

 

 

 

The Astrological Chart

 

Composite Chart (with Derived Cusps)
For Laura Bush and Hilary Clinton
At: Big Rapids,MI         085W29'01"  43N41'53"

 

Planet	Sign	Position	House		House Cusps
Sun	Scorpio	02°Sc05'	01st		01  02°Sc05'
Moon	Capricorn	16°Cp52'	03rd		02  02°Sg05'
Mercury	Scorpio	25°Sc56'	01st		03  02°Cp05'
Venus	Scorpio	17°Sc38' R	01st		04  02°Aq05'
Mars	Libra	03°Li39'	12th		05  02°Pi05'
Jupiter	Scorpio	18°Sc34'	01st		06  02°Ar05'
Saturn	Leo	14°Le37'	10th		07  02°Ta05'
Uranus	Gemini	23°Ge39' R	08th		08  02°Ge05'
Neptune	Libra	10°Li17'	12th		09  02°Ca05'
Pluto	Leo	14°Le02'	10th		10  02°Le05'
Midheaven	Leo	02°Le05'	10th		11  02°Vi05'
Ascendant	Libra	26°Li23'	12th		12  02°Li05'
Part Fortn	Pisces	14°Pi05'	05th
Node	Gemini	04°Ge01' R	08th

 

The Natal Charts

                Laura Bush                                                                  Hilary Clinton
                Nov 04, 1946                                                                 Oct 16, 1947
                12:00:00 PM EST  +05:00                                             12:00:00 PM EST  +05:00
                Big Rapids,MI                                                              Big Rapids,MI      
                085W29'01"  43N41'53"                                               085W29'01"  43N41'53"

                Sun at 11°Sc41' in 01st.                                               Sun at 22°Li29' in 01st.   
                Moon at 11°Pi07' in 04th.                                             Moon at 22°Sc37' in 02nd.   
                Mercury at 04°Sg43' in 01st.                                      Mercury at 17°Sc09' in 01st.   
                Venus at 01°Sg22' in 01st.                                          Venus at 03°Sc54' in 01st.   
                Mars at 28°Sc31' in 01st.                                             Mars at 08°Le47' in 10th.   
                Jupiter at 08°Sc38' in 12th.                                         Jupiter at 28°Sc29' in 02nd.   
                Saturn at 08°Le39' in 09th.                                         Saturn at 20°Le34' in 10th.   
                Uranus at 21°Ge12' in 08th.                                        Uranus at 26°Ge05' in 09th.   
                Neptune at 09°Li34' in 11th.                                        Neptune at 11°Li00' in 12th.   
                Pluto at 13°Le21' in 10th.                                            Pluto at 14°Le44' in 10th.   
                Midheaven at 05°Sc08' in 12th.                                   Midheaven at 15°Li05' in 12th.   
                Ascendant at 07°Cp57' in 02nd.                                 Ascendant at 20°Sg38' in 02nd.   
                Node at 13°Ge11' in 08th.                                             Node at 24°Ta52' in 08th.   
                Part Fortn at 07°Ta24' in 06th.                                   Part Fortn at 20°Cp46' in 03rd.   

Interpretive text copyright 1998 by Bernie Ashman

Copyright 1985-2000 Matrix Software, Inc.

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The Playing Field

 

Welcome Laura and Hilary, to your Simpatico profile, an analysis of your relationship, through the use of a unique tool, the Composite Chart. This is a type of chart that astrologer's use to get an overview of a partnership or friendship. It is constructed by using the midpoints between each of your individual charts. The Composite Chart is a blueprint that represents a symbolic meeting place of your shared mental and emotional energies.

Have you wondered why the two of you may find it easier to agree on some topics and experience tension when trying to discuss others? This report will likely touch on some areas where you might need insight.

There are no perfect relationships. We can strive to make our interactions with others more productive and meaningful. The pages that follow will describe places of harmony in your relationship. It will also point to places of potential conflict. There could be descriptions that contradict each other. Astrology offers a lens through which to view a wide variety of ways to express ourselves, in order to make better use of our vast resources.

Relationships are made more from the fabric of a verb, rather than that of a noun. They are in a continuous process of becoming. You will eventually have changing expectations of one another. Your individual search for growth and new direction is rewarding and yet can create challenges. It is important to find ways to make room for your individual needs. Nothing truly stays the same. Perhaps this report will inspire the two of you to finds ways to mentally stay on the same page. Communication is so vital in clearly relating to each other.

Each of you has a different set of past experiences that influence the way you relate to others. This report might make you more aware of your likenesses and how to better handle your differences.

We seek to make our human interactions productive and meaningful. How can such a simple thing get so complicated? It's that each of us has our own definition of happiness and cherish certain goals that might be hard to compromise.

This report could create new options. Relax. It is not intended to judge either of you. Pause if something makes you take a deep look at yourself or your partner. Each of us is really a student of life when it comes to relationships. Learning how to communicate and to truly hear the mind of another person is a life long quest. Remember that you are not alone when it comes to understanding how to better handle your human relations.

Laura and Hilary, try to let your eyes scan the pages that follow with an open mind. Perhaps you will be stimulated into taking a refreshing look at one another!

Happy Navigating!

 

 

 

Players: The 10 Planets

Part One: The Lead Roles

The Sun

The Sun is the center of our solar system. It generously shares its radiance with the other planets. In Astrology, the Sun is the heart of the chart. It points to ways that your relationship needs to confidently shine. Keep the fires of your Sun burning brightly and proudly together. Harmony will follow. A spirit of cooperation will fill your minds. The Sun stands for ego needs, will power and creative vitality.

Forget your own Sun signs for the moment, Laura and Hilary.

Your shared Sun sign could be different than your individual Sun signs. Remember that we are talking about your combined Sun. It is the fusion of your two creative energies.

Sun in Scorpio

A Sign is a psychological process through which a planet operates. The two of you are solarized through the sign Scorpio, giving your relationship a great deal of emotional intensity. The keyword phrase for Scorpio in traditional astrology is "I desire." This can point to a partnership with a deep creative passion. You can draw out the other's deepest desires to live life to the fullest. You are not satisfied with easy answers. You both probably have a need to penetrate beneath the surface appearance of things. Your minds are as tenacious and probing as detective Columbo. You might even like a bit of mystery and intrigue, now and then.

The potential for a deep psychological link is indicated. The sharing of emotional and physical resources is important to each of you. Others may enjoy benefiting from the razor sharp insights both of you add to situations.

Your relationship can undergo profound transitions. There is a tendency for the two of you to test just how far you can stretch your connection without breaking it. Each of you could be your partner's greatest ally during a crisis.

It is okay to work hard together. Do not forget to play hard as well. A compulsive focus to be good at something is a hallmark of your partnership. You instill a sincere urge in one another to achieve self-mastery. A passionate joint search for careers and wealth can be suddenly awakened.

The sharing of money and power must be dealt with carefully. Help empower each other and you have an ally for life. Your business sense is strong. You can invest together and reap great rewards.

Do not indulge in manipulating each other. Learn to establish clear communication patterns. Keeping your needs a secret can create confusion. Silence or quiet contemplation is the way you may choose to process life experiences. Don't assume you are always understood if you make your partner read your mind. Talk!

Learn to enjoy both the intense and more at ease sides of each other. Extreme drives for intensity can create a lack of emotional stability. Be sure to spend some quality time together that is free from everyday hassles.

Do not run away when one of you is going through deep emotional states. It might help to learn some body signals when needing space or some help! Dealing with the moods created by the chemistry of your togetherness can be helpful. Learn to forgive. Seeing that an argument is not the end of the world can help clear the air.

Your creative vitalities can guide you to create a place of equal power. Realize that building trust can take a lifetime. Do not sweep problems under the rug. They will grow larger if repressed. Learn to enjoy the simple moments. Encourage each other to explore the depths of creative expression. A mutual respect for each other's needs is the doorway to happiness and security.

Sun in the First House

The two of you have little trouble in making your ideas known to each other. Your personalities are very lively together and attract attention. Do you sometimes feel like you are the life of the party? To avoid turf wars, encourage each other to develop individual goals. There is plenty of room in this relationship for both of you!

This partnership can be filled with vigor and drama. The two of you can stimulate one another to creative heights. Boredom is not a welcomed sight. You need to stay active so that the pump of your spontaneity stays primed. Each of you likely needs regular challenges in life. Taking an occasional creative risk keeps life interesting.

Life in the fast lane is your natural pace. You may be impulsive in initiating new directions. Your type "A" personalities may need occasional shifts into type "B". Of course, it could be the other way around. Too much life in the slow lane may bring out some strange moods in each of you.

Try to alternate in yielding the right of way. This will help avoid head on collisions! You tend to draw out each other's will power in a big way. Make it a policy to have some compromise.

Do not take each other's opinions too personally. Your outspoken natures are hard to hide. It is not hard to predict you will deal with one another's anger. Take a deep breath. It's the excitement you instill in each other being ignited.

Procrastination does not suit either of you. It can cause missed opportunities. There are times when you will need to follow your call to action.

Being patient with each other can take practice. Give one another a chance to pursue appropriate creative outlets. You need to have exciting trails in your lives as this keeps the fires of your imaginations lit.

The Moon

Lofty dreams and aspirations have been inspired through gazing at the Moon. The Moon's sign and house position represent the emotional closeness you may share with each other. Establishing a sense of security and a home are other lunar sides of life. The Moon symbolizes the imagination you share from your inner landscapes.

Moon in Capricorn

With your relationship lunerized through the sign Capricorn, the two of you expect a clear definition of your being together to be determined quickly. This is a solid partnership with an inclination to seek commitment early. Don't pressure each other. Time limits don't always yield the results we seek. You are more likely to find happiness with a little flexibility. Longevity is promised when the two of you put your focusing powers together.

Your business instincts are tall enough to leap over the Empire State Building! Mutual support of career goals and serious ambitions makes you trust one another. Helping each other survive the tough times deepens your trust. Celebrating your victories together adds richness to your partnership.

The nurturing energy of this relationship is based on a serious loyalty. Expressing your deepest feelings might not come easy. Listening to the inner motivations for actions will tell you what is really going on in one another's mind.

Your home may be the true pillar of your emotional strength. Each of you probably takes responsibility quite seriously. Your roles could be well planned out. You expect each other to follow through on your promises. Your residence can be a place of comfort and work. There is a great potential to make money through real estate investments. Remember to allow for some spontaneity in your private life as it aborts dull routines. A little variety in your time together is invigorating.

Encourage your partner to act with confidence. You can't control each other so don't bother trying. Warm up to the intuitive feeling each of you has for life. Stay inspired through an occasional new experience.

Let your imaginations guide you to be stable forces of mutual support. The two of you are at your best when working together to realize dreams you have in common.

Moon in the Third House

Your minds often see eye-to-eye on major issues, though they can travel from different directions. Perceptions are often flavored by your emotions. There can be instant intuitive awareness of situations due to the chemistry of your energies.

A shared curiosity to learn is indicated. Communication is highlighted. You might even teach a subject of mutual interest together. Your ability to inspire others to think about options is impressive. There could be endless new insights that benefit one another. There is a restlessness to be mentally active.

Your friends can enjoy the lively atmosphere of your partnership. People can enjoy exchanging ideas with the two of you. Individuals from diverse backgrounds can become part of your social circles.

Your home is never a dull place. Reading and staying in touch with current events is never far from your minds. You can receive visitors or telephone calls at any time of day. It is probably wise to have more than one phone line, computer and television!

The onset of mood swings could disrupt communication. Emotional upheavals can disorient perceptions of each other. Be sure to separate feelings from facts. Listening helps keep emotional reactions balanced.

Let your intuition guide you to listen to each other carefully. Honoring individual ways of establishing mental coolness can be the hidden ally. You can be intrigued with the diverse paths you will walk through life together.

The Ascendant

We are taking a short intermission from the planets to introduce you to an additional key part of your relationship. The Ascendant or Rising Sign, is the sign that starts the 1st house of the chart.  The Ascendant is one of the twelve signs, with a special role, serving as an ambassador. It acts as a persona or mask for an individual or a relationship. The Ascendant is the personality through which we interact with the world.

The Ascendant is the way we appear to others. It is their first impressions of us. You meet someone and he or she seems to be confident, shy, talkative, cheerful, etc. The same can be said for a partnership. The two people might seem theatrical, dreamy, or businesslike.

Ascendant in Libra

People could see the two of you as diplomatic and outgoing types. Fairness through carefully weighing opposing viewpoints is a regular occurrence. A flair for dressing colorfully and in the right way for an occasion is typical of you. It is impressive how you manage to fulfill several social obligations and maintain a smooth way of interacting with others. You can feel like your minds have a shared purpose. Entertainment tastes can be a particularly fun way of spending time together. You can help one another stay cool during all forms of emotional weather. Your calendar can get full with social obligations.

The Part of Fortune

Your Sun, Moon and Ascendant can be combined or blended into a cosmic alchemy, known as the Part of Fortune. This is not a planet, but rather a reference point in the chart. The Arabian astrologers of the Middle Ages are given credit for its discovery. The Part of Fortune is said to show where we can expect to find good fortune and even luck. Do we really need to take a look at something from the long ago past, if it will serve as nothing more than a relic to hang on the wall? A translation of this ancient symbol into modern terms makes this symbol worth investigating. Why? Because it can give clues to special paths that lead to harmony and a spirit of feeling united.

Think of the Part of Fortune as a potential corridor leading to Opportunity. It is a way to read the pulse rate of the partnership, indicating ways to reach a shared sense of fulfillment.

Part of Fortune in Pisces

The ideals you share inspire you to walk with a great sense of unity. Your beliefs can influence others to take a good look at their own. It is the unspoken language between you that others might envy. You often appear to move together with little conflict, whether this is true or not. It could be your love of mysticism or the mystique surrounding you that is intriguing. Your intuitive connection will often find you thinking the same thoughts. The intuition and imagination you awaken in one another ignites your creative powers.

Part of Fortune in the Fifth House

Your creative power brings out the risk-takers in you. It's your way of not looking back that brings the best that luck has to offer. Being cheerleaders for one another gets you to go beyond self-doubt. You can enjoy indulging in some of the same pastimes. A fire may get magically lit to pursue an uplifting avocation. Making life a fun-filled adventure stimulates a tireless capacity to be happy. You are good for your partner's self-confidence.

 

 

 

Part Two: The Supporting Cast

Mercury

Are you curious about the way the two of you communicate? In this section are Mercury's sign and house placements, showing some of your favorite communication tendencies. Mercury is referred to as the winged messenger in mythology, a networker for the gods. This very mental heavenly body represents an important link between your minds. It shows how you interpret what the other is saying. Mercury is connected to Perception. Astrologers consider Mercury the ruler of the conscious mind.

Mercury in Scorpio

Your mental energies can penetrate to the deepest recesses of each other's minds. There is a bit of the detective in your relationship. You probably perceive life as a mystery story and can enjoy figuring out why things happen to people.

Your conversations probably don't get into much chitchat. There is a no nonsense approach to life. You can talk about anything, as no subject is likely off limits. What you fear talking about you will probably encounter in your lives anyway. The two of you are catalysts to get others to deepen their awareness and go beneath the surface appearance of things. Trust is a magic ingredient that deepens your connection. You might appear quiet to some people and charismatic to others. Much depends on how comfortable you are with the company.

You can enjoy researching subjects of interest together. A shared desire to learning more about psychology and metaphysics is possible. Life's mysteries entice your curiosity. You can dissuade one another from settling for easy answers.

You possess a better than average business knowledge. Either one of you could be excited about starting a business venture. Accounting instincts and knowing what the public needs is embedded in your shared awareness. There is an ability in giving new life to used items. Money might be made through communication or consulting.

Sarcasm! You can display a biting tongue to each other. Sometimes you will strike first and then be ready to listen later. Each of you can make a direct emotional hit on the other. Talking is essential. If you stay completely quiet nothing will ever get worked out. Small problems turn into resentments. The more you speak up the greater the chance to be good problem-solvers.

Your shared insights bring new awareness into your lives. Your minds can be focused in a laser-like fashion to push open new doors of self-mastery.

Mercury in the First House

Your minds are quick to act. You can display lightning fast perceptions. The two of you have strong initiating impulses. Your relationship might show you challenging the opinions of one another.

People are stimulated to be more decisive when spending time with you. You can display an eagerness to learn. You both probably like to stay abreast of the current news in your community or society. You have an antenna that has a sharp eye allowing you to stay aware of the world around you.

You are likely perceived as able to communicate clearly. Your friends and loved ones feel free to seek your advice. The two of you can get right to the point in talking to one another. Sharing your favorite subjects with each other is fun. Don't jump to conclusions about your partner. Be sure to hear all of the facts. You can be a bit competitive in proving you are right. Allow for an even exchange of ideas.

You can show a knowledge about business trends. Communication fields exhibit your speaking skills. You both will gravitate toward work that is fast-paced. Your schedules are apt to be filled to the brim.

Nervous energy! You can make one another very anxious if you change your plans suddenly. Appreciating each other's insights brings trust. Communication is a powerful tool in this relationship! Listening as well as talking will encourage closeness.

Venus

Without Venus, life would be lonely and meaningless for all of us. This socially-minded planet guides our People Awareness and search for Aesthetic Beauty. The Venus sign and house positions most directly point to your search for a sense of balance, peace, comfort and mutual acceptance.

Venus in Scorpio

Your relationship is a Symbol of Magnetism. You make a strong impression on others and aren't easily forgotten. You have social instincts that are extroverted on one hand and introverted on the other. Much probably depends on your mood and the people in your company. You two can have an emotionally tight partnership. There is the potential for a deep bond. When you first met, you may have liked each other's passion for life.

Your love of privacy may sometimes find people feeling you are a hard to get to know couple. This includes even your closest friends and loved ones. You tend to trust people who show they care about you.

Obtaining greater wealth is a possible desire. Each of you may be willing to make sacrifices to realize a dream. You are able to manage your spending better than most. There is even business savvy indicated. Getting too attached to what you own may be something to notice. There is a shared determination to overcome obstacles to reach the financial security you desire. You are show-me kinds of people in the financial area. Trusting one another when it comes to money may take time and effort.

What might need to be balanced? Forgiveness is good to keep in mind. You can get each other mad in an instant. Don't let the anger bother you. It's better to get it up and out. It makes it easier to let go and get on with your lives. The power needs to be as equal as possible. You will have more fun together when each of you feels empowered. There can be a great loyalty between you that can withstand anything that comes along. Learn to enjoy the simple things.

Venus in the First House

The two of you can't be accused of being shy. Even when you are not feeling confident socially, your smiles can hide any feelings of insecurity. People like you. Finding time to yourselves may not always be easy. You activate the gregarious instincts of friends or strangers. Though there is potential for conflict concerning your values, you share a tendency to quickly put them into action. There may be fondness for walking nature trails and watching sunrises.

Buying on impulse is indicated. You tend to go directly after what you desire. Money may come and go. Your energy to make a good living is ferocious. Each of you needs the freedom to spend money on clothes, image consulting and the pleasurable items of your choice. The careers may each deal with the public. People probably see you to be sometimes self-absorbed. You make good mediators.

Emotions pour out spontaneously. It isn't too difficult to figure out when one of you is not happy. Your eyes are a dead give away. You can be quick to agitate one another and just that quickly be flowing nicely. It's not hard to get centered again. Get good at knowing win-win strategies. By all means, do give each other an equal amount of attention!

Prolonged indecision has no place in your companionship. It has a way of making you feel uncomfortable. Weigh your options but do move forward. The two of you are dynamic when trusting your hunches. Others can see you as role models, representing a quality they would like to develop.

Mars

The ancients considered Mars the god of war. The warrior planet can translate into heated exchanges with each other. Mars arouses Passion in the form of courage, anger or a desire to forge ahead as a swash-buckling team. Mars is still the ruler of combat. It points to the primal competitive instincts embedded deep within each of us. In modern terms, this fiery red planet's sign and house placement are associated with assertion and acting on impulse.

Mars in Libra

The warrior in you has two natures. One is carefree, and the other is worried about how others will judge your rash impulses. The two of you can stop on a dime to first assess the possible impact of your actions. You like to know if a battle is worth fighting before launching an offensive. You prefer to look at situations from more than one angle before moving ahead. You can be assertive when you become convinced you are in the right. Negotiating with a spirit of fairness and compromise is what you expect. You don't like to argue with each other, but will do so to defend a position.

You can be drawn to help friends and loved ones get through tough times. People probably find your insights comforting. Helping others make decisions might be a talent. There is a natural inclination to be mediators in helping individuals settle disputes.

You tend to bring out the extrovert in your partner. There is a natural outgoingness that takes you into various circles of friends and business associates. An active social life is stimulating. The movies and dining out are fun ways to be together. You may have mutual tastes in food and the arts. There is a tendency to seek happiness in the same ways.

Your relationship is energized through your interactions with others. There is a flair for handling yourselves well when in the public eye. You can excel in getting people to support your ideas. A drive to express yourselves creatively can be mutually rewarding.

Mars in the Twelfth House

So you sometimes get lost in your idealism--is that so bad? The people thinking the two of you are foolish may be surprised where your faith will take you. You both likely view reality different than most. If you can't live for your most sincere beliefs, then what good is getting up in the morning? You are a passionate pair when it comes to seeking inspiration. Your devotion to a mission or an art form can be great. It is good to know your limits. You can drop from exhaustion without knowing it is coming. You both can grow disillusioned, and even disoriented, if your life together is not fueled by a higher purpose.

Awakening each other's imagination can be rewarding and fun at the same time. Escape to places that make you feel energized is fulfilling. There is a mystery about your companionship that may seem like it is part of a novel. Your life together can be a series of unexplainable events.

Anger is hard to face; you don't like confronting each other. A passive way of dealing with problems will not always work. Communicate. It offers a path to mutual understanding. Emotions are always circulating back and forth. Your friends can enjoy the way you accept them, no matter their faults. You need to know your boundaries in helping others out of jams.

Acting on your most heartfelt impulses motivates you. Doubting yourselves will keep you from more fertile ground. It is when you walk with a quest for meaning and a growth-promoting vision that you are the happiest.

Jupiter

The largest planet in the sky is Jupiter. This happy-go-lucky cosmic giant is more than twice the size of all the other planets put together. Jupiter spins on its axis with great enthusiasm, doing this faster than any other planet. Jupiter's sign and house denote themes related to learning, optimism, travel, philosophical beliefs, luck and generosity. Inspiration that flows between two people can be traced to our good-natured friend in the sky.

Jupiter in Scorpio

You seek inspiration through a shared plumbing into the depths of your favorite subjects. Even areas of interest your society has labeled with a no trespassing sign, are not off limits. The two of you don't scare easy when you want to know the real scoop about a situation. Secrets are not easily kept from each other. The blunt honesty in your tongues can send shock waves through each other, and the people you meet. Your words and beliefs have a lasting impact on others. You have little respect for hypocrisy.

The researchers in you lead your minds to master an area of interest. When your attention is captured, your concentration is intense. Psychology, metaphysics, and even the world economy can be regular topics of discussion.

Your dependable trust for one another can be profound. Friends and loved ones respect your ability to give sound advice. Your knowledge comes from experience rather than from a book. Be tolerant of the differences in your personal belief systems. Accepting opposing viewpoints only serves to deepen your connection. It will be difficult to really change each other's most cherished ideas!

Travel allows your two minds to process your individual and joint paths. The intensity with which you approach life together needs to be mixed with plain good-old-fashioned fun. A sense of happiness and expansive growth occur when you make your partner feel materially and psychologically secure. There is a desire to pursue the best life has to offer. Your faith in each other can help get you through any challenge.

Jupiter in the First House

A speedy impulse to walk through a door of opportunity. Does this sound like a tendency you share? There is a knack for sniffing out lucky breaks that enhance your lives. Your self-confidence can accomplish much. You are probably in the habit of diving into something and worrying about the details later. People can fall in love with the big heartedness you both can show. When you believe in someone, you show it in an obvious way.

Exploring other locations keeps the two of you inspired. You are not stay-at-home people. Gypsy spirits will want to be expressed. You are students of life. Teaching the knowledge you grasp is a natural instinct. Expanding the horizons of others is a theme throughout your relationship.

Your belief in one another is an attractive quality. You can be a shining star in each other's eyes. Don't ask your partner to live their life through your own vision. It will cause friction. You both need plenty of leeway in making your decisions. Each of you would rather chance the consequences of your own choices than be guided too much by the rules of others.

This is a partnership rich in personality. You make quite an impression on people. There is an atmosphere of wealth or royalty in your faces no matter the reality of your financial situation. Life seems to click when you spontaneously initiate new directions.

Saturn

Astronomers say that if Saturn fell from the sky it is light enough to float on an ocean. Some people dread hearing about where Saturn is in their chart more than they do going to the dentist! The fortune tellers of old always painted this planet with "heavy" interpretations. They presented this planet as being a god of doom and gloom. In modern astrology, this motif denotes endurance and ambition. In mythology, Saturn was Chronos, the god of time, reflecting the wisdom that can be learned from past experiences. You could say Saturn is a "Cosmic Chiropractor", showing adjustments needing to be made along life's way. There can be frustration in repeating the same mistakes. Saturn's sign and house themes are associated with Commitment and Reality-Testing. The two of you may find clues here about how to define your relationship roles. Career drive is a Saturn hallmark. Saturn shadows are fear, rigidity and a need to be compulsively controlling. There is no longevity without partners dealing with the symbolism of this particular celestial wanderer. With a lot of practice and patience the two of you can get good in making this side of your relationship flow--honest! Saturn can become more a god of Success!

Saturn in Leo

You are dynamos together. When you join forces it's as powerful as the allies defeating Germany in World War Two was! You can focus on a project and get it accomplished in a hurry. There are strong opinions on the best way to do a job. Stroke each other's egos once in a w